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Steve Sailer

Tom Wolfe offers a an amusing reverie on how much the San Francisco City Hall workers loved working in Brown's masterpiece in Wolfe's "Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers"

Benjamin Hemric


I remember reading the Kunstler interview with Jacobs and postively enjoying the way Jacobs refused to get swept up in Kunstler's enthusiasm for the City Beautiful movement!

But in "Death and LIfe . . . ," Jacobs did write words of praise for the Beaux Arts New York Public Library on Fifth Avenue. Of course, although the NYPL is commerce free and set-back into Bryant Park, it is nevertheless pretty close to the street and is also surrounded by the hubub of commerce -- even more so in the 1950s than today.)

And although I don't recall specific words of praise for Grand Central Terminal (aside from a positive mention of Vanderbilt Avenue), one imagines that Jacobs was probably a very big fan of this magnificent Beaux Art structure -- its density, complexity and integration into the surrounding city.

So it seems Beaux Arts architects could, at least occassionally, do the "right thing" as far as Jacobs was concerned.

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And, although Pennsylvania Station wasn't set into a park, it was indeed a Beaux Arts building that suffered from anti-urban pomposity and distrust of commerce -- but Jacobs apparently was still a big enough of a fan to demonstrate against it's demolition. (I recently saw -- but don't remember where -- a photo of her at the Philip Johnson demonstration.)

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Personally speaking, here are some other Beaux Arts buildings (or Beaux Arts inspired buildings) in Manhattan that seem to me to work rather well urbanisitically (are not overly pompous or anti-commercial): the Lyceum Theater, the South Street (?) Ferry Building, the Helen Hayes Theater (demolished), the McKim Mead and White Tiffany Building (on 37th? St.), the New York Yacht Club, the Municipal Building, the New York Central Building, etc.

And, of course, there are also some aloof, anti-commercial Beaux Arts buildings that have a fairly good reason for being aloof or anti-commerical and wind-up, for one reason or another (e.g., not being set back too far from the street), working well urbanistically anyway (e.g., the Customs House, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, etc.).

Laurence Aurbach

Wonderful photoessay, Francis. One thing the ICA&CA might consider is assembling, with the help of its friends and supporters, a directory of "Classical Monuments of the 20th Century." It might start as a bare-bones list, and then if anyone is moved to write short notes or essays about specific buildings, it could grow into a larger document. It could be a useful resource -- how many stupendous works go virtually unknown because they aren't celebrated in the architectural textbooks?

Here are a few more buildings that might be considered:
Federal Triangle complex
National Archives
Lincoln Memorial
Jefferson Memorial
Delaware Legislative Hall
Idaho State Capitol
Kentucky State Capitol
Missouri State Capitol
Utah State Capitol
Washington State Capitol
West Virginia State Capitol
Wisconsin State Capitol
Rashtrapati Bhavan

Most of these are late Beaux Arts designs. I'm especially interested in designs made after the early 1930s, when the International Style began its ascendency. That's when the choices (and conflicts) available to designers and their clients began to resemble our contemporary situation.

This quote by Goodhue about the Nebraska State Capitol clearly shows the influence of modernist rhetoric:

"It has seemed to the authors that the traditions of ancient Greece and Rome and of Eighteenth Century France are in no wise applicable in designing a building destined to be the seat of Government of a great western commonwealth. So, while the architectural style employed may, roughly, be called "Classic", it makes no pretense of belonging to any period of the past. Its authors have striven to present something worthy of the high uses to which the building is to be devoted, an index to that which is within, a State Capitol of the Here and Now, and naught else."

About your topic of discussion: I don't think it's the best architecture that's necessarily been divorced from the best urbanism -- but then I love relatively modest storefronts and rowhouses. It may be more accurate to say the grandest, most monumental and elaborate architecture is divorced from the best urbanism. You're on to something when you say morality played a role -- a desire to maintain the purity of temple forms free from profane commerce. The solution for future designers entails more than just proximity. A more cooperative, integrated and welcoming attitude is called for.

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